PROFESIONAL ENGINEER

Kengkawan sering b'tanya apa maksud "Ir" d pangkal nama sy tu. "Ir. = Ingnieur" utk engineer yang bertauliah,title paling tggi dlm bidang engineering.Utk m'dapatkan gelaran itu, org itu perlu b'kije dlm bidang mereka dlm sebuah syarikat.Org itu perlu handle 1 project yg b'kaitan dgn bidang beliau.After project b'kenaan settle,org itu perlu memohon utk m'duduki 1 exam kemudian setelah lulus exam b'kenaan barulah org itu blh dpt title Ir.

Antara Ir yg m'jd idol sy :-
http://saholhamid.uitm.edu.my/
https://www.facebook.com/DatoSahol

Antara Ir yg sy kenal d tempat kije yg dulu :-
http://www.ikram.com.my/v3/index.php/about-us/management

Sewaktu b'kije d Ikram Skills and Retraining Academy, cita2 sy ingin m'dptkan title t'sebut lg b'kobar2 coz ramai Ir yg sy kenal d sana.

For ur info bila dah dpt title Ir ni kan dia punya signature je blh meraih b'bilion RM, but dia punya responsibility sgt besar.Mereka yg akan responsible bila b'laku sesuatu pd project yg ditandatangan.

Hasil carian di "Pak Cik Google" cara nak m'dptkan gelaran Ir :-

Any candidate who applies for registration as a Professional Engineer must:

   1. Be registered as a Graduate Engineer with BEM (Board of Engineer Malaysia); and
   2. Have satisfied the training requirements of BEM; and
   3. Have passed the Professional Assessment Examination (PAE) of BEM or be elected as a Corporate Member of the Institution of Engineers Malaysia (IEM); and
   4. Have been residing in Malaysia for a period of not less than six months immediately prior to the date of application.

APPLICATION FOR REGISTRATION

   1. Application shall be made in Form B1.
   2. On approval of the application, the candidate is required to pay a registration fee of RM350.00 within two months of the date of notification of such approval.
   3. On payment of the registration fee, a certificate of registration in Form D1 will be issued.


There are two ways to become a professional engineer in Malaysia:

a) Through BEM ===> By sitting for their PAE (Professional Assessment Examination)

- In order to be able to sit for their PAE you MUST have a minimum of 3 years of working experience.

- Your 3 years of working experience ONLY STARTS counting after you have registered with the BEM.

- Eg. In the year 2009 you have been effectively working for 10 years but you have registered with the BEM only in 2008. That means you only
have 1 year of working experience in their clock. Therefore, all fresh graduates please register with the BEM ASAP after your graduation. It is
supposed to be illegal for you to work in the capacity of an engineer without a registration with the BEM.

- The second requirement before you can sit for their PAE is to complete 60 hours of BEM mandatory courses known as the PDP (Professional
Development Programme). PS: My abbreviation for PDP may be wrong.

- Once you have sat and passed the PAE you will gain your P.Eng and hence, entitled to use the title Ir.
Eg. Ir. Dr. Nurul Huda Binti Ederus B.Eng(Hons), Phd (Mech), P.Eng


b) Through IEM ===> By sitting for their PI (Professional Interview)

- Before even talking about the PI, a fresh graduate is encouraged to register with the IEM as a graduate engineer. Once you have registered with
the IEM as a graduate engineer, you are entitled to the title Engr. As simple as that.
Eg. Engr. Dr. Nurul Huda Binti Ederus B.Eng(Hons), Phd (Mech), GM.I.E.M

- Once you are a graduate member, you can then proceed on to become their corporate member which consists of the bulk of the IEM membership.
Note: It is not mandatory to become a graduate member first before becoming a corporate member.

- In order to become a corporate member, you have to first sit for the PI.
Note: The PAE by BEM is EXACTLY the same as the PI by IEM. In fact the PAE is run by the same people that organizes the PI.

- In order to be able to sit for the PI, applicants SHOULD have at least a minimum of 3 years of working experience. It will be virtually
impossible to pass the PI if you have less than 3 years of working experience since you will most probably have insufficient materials to be put in
your report.
Note: It is not necessary to become a graduate member first before you can sit for the PI and there is no IEM clock that counts your working
experience. If you have been working for 10 years, you will then have 10 years of working experience as far as IEM is concerned.

- Once you have sat and passed the PI, you are entitled to use the title Engr. (Same title as the graduate engineer)
Eg. Engr. Dr. Nurul Huda Binti Ederus B.Eng(Hons), Phd (Mech), M.I.E.M

- Once you have your Engr. (M.I.E.M) you can then proceed to top up with the Ir (P.Eng) from BEM. There are two scenarios:

===> If you have not registered with the BEM, go register with them and wait three years before getting your P.Eng. You must also complete the
60 hours of BEM mandatory courses known as the PDP.

===> If you have registered with the BEM and have three years of woking experience according to their clock, you can get your P.Eng.
immediately. You must also complete the 60 hours of BEM mandatory courses known as the PDP.

Once scenario 1 and 2 are covered, you will have the privillege to use the titles:
Eg. Ir. Dr. Nurul Huda Binti Ederus B.Eng(Hons), Phd (Mech), P.Eng, M.I.E.M ===> Normally people will use Ir. only if they have both the
Ir. and Engr.

Notes:
1) If you have to approve or/and submit layouts/designs to the approving authortity, P.Eng is mandatory. But if you are working in the manufacturing sector for instance, you can opt just for the M.I.E.M. Getting either/both the P.Eng or the M.I.E.M is a great personal satisfaction if you ask me and they look absolutely fabulous on your resume smile.gif .

2) Once you get your P.Eng from BEM, you will have to renew your "license" every year in order to be able to continue to use the title Ir. Before you can renew your license, you must complete 40 hours (I may be wrong) of CPD (Continuous Professional Development).

3) Feel free to add/correct my points as necessary.


TRAINING REQUIREMENTS

   1. A registered Graduate Engineer is required under Section 10(1)(b) of the Act to obtain practical experience in order to be entitled to sit for the Professional Assessment Examination (PAE) which is a prerequisite to apply for registration as a Professional Engineer.
   2. The candidate shall carry out the practical experience in the following manner as prescribed in Regulation 22(1) of the Registration of Engineers Regulations 1990:

    The practical experience that a registered Graduate Engineer is required to obtain under section 10 (1) (b) of the Act in order to be entitled to apply for registration as a Professional Engineer shall be carried out in a manner satisfactory to the Board for a period of three years ?

       1. in the planning, design, execution or management of such works as comprised within the profession of engineering;
       2. in engineering research; or
       3. in the teaching in a course leading to a qualification in engineering research; or in the teaching in a course leading to a qualification approved by the Board, and at least one Year of such practical experience shall be obtained in Malaysia under the supervision of a registered Profession Engineer of the same discipline or an approved allied discipline and shall be in fields of engineering practice other than in research or teaching.

   3. This period of training in a local environment is greatly emphasized by BEM as it is of
paramount importance for the prospective Professional Engineers to be familiar with the local conditions and by - laws so that they can comply and practise effectively
in Malaysia.


   4.  Notwithstanding the above, regulation 22(2) stipulates that if the Board is satisfied for sufficient cause or reason, the Board may in any particular case exempt either wholly or partly the requirements as to the practical experience required to be obtained in Malaysia or the requirement as to the supervision by a registered Professional Engineer in Malaysia; provided that the total practical experience to be obtained shall not be less than three years.
  
   5.  Where there is no Professional Engineer of the same or allied discipline as the candidate in the organisation in which the candidate is working, he may seek the approval from BEM to obtain a Professional Engineer from outside his organisation to supervise his training.
  

   6.  After the candidate has completed the required prescribed training, he may apply to sit for the Professional Assessment Examination conducted by BEM.

What're the PROs & CONs as PE ?

If you are good and fit engineer, you shall progress yourself to PE status. NO QUESTION on PROs and CONs. You should not give yourself a choice because you called yourself ENGINEER.

Read more about "ENGINEER" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer

I guess the PROs would be...

i) Continuing development...this is part of life regardless of engineer or other profession
ii) Practicing engineer oversea...It may be a "passport" to obtain PE status in other country...
iii) Job requirement...e.g. LEAD PROCESS ENGINEER in an OIL & GAS project required Professional engineer. Now PREFERABLE still keeps in the spec...I believe it will be removed soon. (and become MANDATORY)
iv) Promotion...(iii) set one of the requirement for promotion to Senior, lead, principal, management level...in establish company like SHELL, TECHNIP, etc.
Others would be gain extra respect, self satisfaction, role model, etc...which is more individual related...

You may think this is "CON" (infact it should be PRO...)

If you have acquired your PE status, your SHALL fulfill the Continuing Professional Development (CPD) e.g. maintain accumulating 50 CPD hours per year on average over 3 years...
CPDDetails...read here - http://www.bem.org.my/cpd/19sept2005/cpdcircular1-2005.doc

Why should i register to BEM if i practising engineering in MALAYSIA ?

First and the essential step is if your are practising engineering in any aspect, it is mandatory to register yourself as Graduates engineer to BEM. This is govern by ACT !
I know many practising engineers ignore this...PLEASE register yourself to BEM as Graduate engineer. Otherwise you are ILLEGAL workforce !!!

BEM ? IEM ??

BEM is government body
- authority to ensure all practising engineer in compliance to MALAYSIA's LAW in engineering related. Once you are certified by BEM, you are Professional Engineer (PE) and you can apply Ir. in front of you name i.e. PhD holder with title of Dr.

IEM is professional body
- a body promote professionalism and encourage continuous learning. Provide professional opinion to BEM whenever required. NO authority at all in legal terms. Once you are approved by IEM as member, you are Corporate member of IEM and you can apply ENGR at the end or below you name.


Authority organization (BE, UK ?) in UK...(those who know, please furnish here)
- Similar to BEM...law related stuff. Once you are certified, you are PE.

IChemE - Professional body similar to formal IJKM (Institute Jurutera Kimia Malaysia) or MIEM (not 100%)
- works on promoting professionalism. Once you are approved, you are Chartered Engineer, CE if not mistaken

Again, THERE's NO ACKNOWLEDGMENT and AGREEMENT between them.

P.S. : Recently IChemE is has raised some discussion with IEM on this issue...however there's not conclusion.

1 more info ,A good n fit engineer can get 5 figure(per month) income.Being a PE would be a "guideline" to other who don't know u. But, this does not mean a PE is always a good engineer

Sy mmg dr zaman2 skolh dlu dh b'cita2 nk dpt title Ir in refrigeration  air conditioning ni tp hik..hik..hik.. xde rezeki agaknya

ianya simple but it never easy,even dlm Malaysia there's only a few of them.Nak dapatkan Dr. Engineer pun payah inikan pula Ir (Professional Engineer) 

If u'll student lagi 

- daftar dgn BEM..

Kalau dah kije 

- daftar as Graduate Engineer.

- kije dgn Engineer berstatus Ir.
- apply dgn BEM, n ur superior akan monitorize how u work n so on~ amik test~ amik lesen~ then walaaa..!! u are an Ir.

kalau tak graduate pun boleh

- kije dgn engineer berstatus Ir. selama 7yr

- then boleh apply n proses boleh ambil masa 3yr

- so, Ir in 10years

Pada sesiapa yg b'minat tu baguslah ada cita2 gitu...chaiyok..!! fighting..!!!!

But tgk2 lah option lain...sebenarnya bidang engineering ni luas so luaskan lagi pemandangan anda~

Selamat Mencuba Kengkawan.

XOXO..Lebiu